He was raised as a third-generation Jehovah’s Witness, with his entire family inside the organization. His stepfather was an elder. Leaving meant losing everything — and he knew it from age 12. Today, Dr. Cary is a theology professor at Walsh University, and a devoted Catholic. And in this episode, he pulls back the curtain on everything.

What do Jehovah’s Witnesses actually believe about Jesus, the Holy Spirit, heaven, and hell? Why is it a cult — and how can you tell? What happens when you leave? And what should you say if one comes to your door?

This is one of the most eye-opening conversations we’ve ever had on this show.

In this episode:

• What Jehovah’s Witnesses believe about Jesus (it’s not what you’d expect)
• The 144,000 — and what they believe happens to everyone else
• How the organization uses isolation and shunning to control members
• What “PIMO” means — and why thousands are secretly trapped inside
• Practical tips for talking to a Jehovah’s Witness at your door
• The moment at age 12 that started Dr. Cary’s journey out
• How a funeral homily reignited his wife’s faith — and changed his life
• The first Mass that broke him open and brought him home