What if the reason you keep struggling with the same sins, the same patterns, and the same emotional reactivity has nothing to do with a lack of willpower—and everything to do with a lack of interior integration?

In this episode of The Chris Stefanick Show, Chris sits down with Catholic psychologist Dr. Peter Malinoski to unpack one of the most powerful—and underexplored—concepts in both psychology and Catholic tradition: interior integration.

Dr. Malinoski explains what it means to be integrated, why St. Thomas Aquinas and the Desert Fathers were already talking about this centuries ago, and why modern Catholics have largely lost touch with it. He introduces Internal Family Systems (IFS)—a psychology framework rooted in the idea that we each have an “innermost self” and a multiplicity of inner “parts”—and shows how this maps beautifully onto Catholic anthropology and even the Trinity itself.

This conversation will shake up the way you see yourself, your struggles, and your spiritual life.

Listen to Dr. Malinoski’s podcast, Interior Integration for Catholics.